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Poster: light into ashes Date: Aug 29, 2011 8:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Recollections of Things Seen On Stage

I think the band did what they needed to do BEFORE they went on-stage... (After all, that's partly what the set-break was for!)
Of course, there were occasions when Jerry just couldn't wait and lit up a cigarette between songs. (What's the show where Weir rags him about it?)
Maybe Phil drank onstage sometimes, but I'd guess that was mostly kept backstage as well. At the most, he'd just come on already drunk!
Since hardly anyone here saw Pigpen, it's harder to say - I'd assume it would be easy for him to keep some booze by the organ, especially during long periods of the shows when he wasn't playing.... Then again, maybe the others frowned on that. He, of course, was free to wander offstage during the show during '69-71, when he wasn't playing very much.

Though there were times in the early days where the band might've had a bit TOO much LSD before the show, over time, they were professional enough to adjust themselves just right before they came on. The one main exception I remember is 2/7/79, where Parrish said Jerry downed some valium before he came on. Our SBD is (fortunately perhaps) incomplete - the show starts off very sprightly, but by Stagger Lee & Dancin' you can tell something's going very wrong with Jerry!
And of course there were other times when Jerry came on very ill, but not drug-related...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 29, 2011 11:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Song--smoke/break--song--smoke/break/tune

He often smoked non-stop in my shows; he would finish two packs of Camels easily. Esp in JGB shows where it was more "bar atmosphere" (like Keystone, etc). During any tuning break, which was often between every song in the 70s, he'd light up then, and be done by the song starting.

I often thought this was why they took so long between songs...

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Poster: Jim F Date: Aug 31, 2011 10:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Song--smoke/break--song--smoke/break/tune

I'd always heard and thought of Jerry as being one of those musicians who would light a whole lot of cigarettes, but barely wind up smoking much of them.

I knew this one local guitar player who was a real expert at smoking while playing. It was almost entertaining to watch, a true master of the art of picking and singing and he could hold the thing in his pick hand, and still manage to get puffs in while playing and singing, without missing a note. Some guys just light one, take a few puffs, then it gets put on an amp or in their guitar string and it just kinda gets forgotten about because they're too busy playing. Not this guy, he was a pro.

Anyway I'd say that generally the GD and especially JGB show format with lots of tuning breaks (moreso in the earlier years) made it pretty easy to get in a couple puffs between most songs.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 1, 2011 6:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Song--smoke/break--song--smoke/break/tune

Yeah, he was most active during the breaks, and often stopped as he started playing, whether finished or not...he did sometimes stick it in the neck of the guitar, like you see so many do, but rarely did he or those guys end up being able to retrieve it during the song, IMHO. And, he didn't seem to go for the corner of the mouth dangle approach either.

BTW, I think you might want to re-examine your post (re: "boobs") as it was posted under the "wrong" poster, methinks? A very nice gal, as it turns out.

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Poster: Jim F Date: Sep 2, 2011 10:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Song--smoke/break--song--smoke/break/tune

Ha thanks, but we sorted it out (re:"boobs"). I was totally kidding, was making a sortof statement/joke about her original comment about the macho jock stuff you find on most message boards. I totally have nothing but respect for miss Rose! I'm no chauvanist jock ass by any means.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 2, 2011 11:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Song--smoke/break--song--smoke/break/tune

Gotcha....the joke didn't occur to me, but was funny in a crude way, as in mimicry of the prior poster, etc.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Aug 29, 2011 9:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Recollections of Things Seen On Stage

I think I know which one you are talking about. Its fall 77 if I recall correctly. Bob remarks as to how jerry always lights up a cigarette at the worst times, or something to that effect. I believe its also the same show where bobby has everyone make their favorite animal noise, followed by phil asking everyone to make their favorite people noises. Post Candyman me thinks... Great banter

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Poster: Jim F Date: Aug 31, 2011 12:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Recollections of Things Seen On Stage

10/14/77 is the one that has Bob talking about Jerry's smoke break and life being an "eternal jones" for the smoker of the "evil weed tobacco." Phil says something about how they should make a cigarette that goes out after one puff. And the animal/people noise stuff, of course.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Aug 31, 2011 12:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Recollections of Things Seen On Stage

Yes, that's the one. I didn't realize until seeing some of the comments here that Jerry smoked like a chimney onstage as well as off. Ah well, moderation was not his thing...